anum11 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Has anyone seen it? I tried with dupont pretreated t-shirt as wet, and dtf printout without powder as wet, pressed together it is okay at first. But after one wash it has some issues like some of print leaving shirt making some parts air filled under print, if you get what i mean. Like it is going to peel off. Has anyone seen a proper one? If yes, what is the catch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 hours ago, anum11 said: Has anyone seen it? I tried with dupont pretreated t-shirt as wet, and dtf printout without powder as wet, pressed together it is okay at first. But after one wash it has some issues like some of print leaving shirt making some parts air filled under print, if you get what i mean. Like it is going to peel off. Has anyone seen a proper one? If yes, what is the catch? They use liquid adhesive instead of powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 hours ago, johnson4 said: They use liquid adhesive instead of powder. The liquid adhesive is printed from the printhead. From everything I know it sucks. While my standard powdered prints have gotten rather soft with experience and good supplies/tuning my machines they continue to get softer as washed/worn. I feel for durability reason a liquid adhesive that can't really get down into the fibers isn't going to work well, or for long. They sell only the liquid adhesive, but it's very expensive and requires dedicated channels for it. Some rips can handle it. Color, White, then Adhesive- 3 layers. I personally think it's just a gimmick, a company trying to get a quick cash grab. But it may have advanced in technology since I last looked, I'm not sure. I'll stick with the standard way for now, most of my customers seem happy with it and it works well. I have shirts going on 70+ washes and still look/feel good. When you compare it to traditional methods that deposit ink instead of dying the fabric, It's very close and achievable to be softer than things like plastisol, water-based inks, vinyl and all that stuff. The only thing in my eyes that beats it is sublimation in terms of hand feel. Just my 0.02, Don't let me stop you from searching. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anum11 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 Okay if it slows down the process and not good washability for now it is useless. Thank you for infos, it would be suitable in time i will keep an eye on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeedUp Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I don't have personal experience, but I've heard that if you enjoy white ink clogging your nozzles, then you'll have a barrel of fun with liquid adhesive clogs. Also not sure if true, but I've read that you're locked into the printer vendor for supplies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, TeedUp said: I don't have personal experience, but I've heard that if you enjoy white ink clogging your nozzles, then you'll have a barrel of fun with liquid adhesive clogs. Also not sure if true, but I've read that you're locked into the printer vendor for supplies. Yeah, I mean I seen this over a year ago and if it’s not more dominant in the market than it is, it’s for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Nicole Ni said: After the printer is printed, it is necessary to use hot melt adhesive powder to fuse with the DTF film, so that the pattern can be transferred perfectly They have powderless DTF. The adhesive is printed on the design like the ink. Cmyk then white then adhesive. It’s just heated afterwards to cure without TPU powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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