Latitude42 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Hello!!! Been lurking for some time, finally joined... need some advice if you are willing... Background,..screen printer & embroidery for 15 years. Do ALL of my own maintenance. Have printed plastisol transfers 1&2 color by the thousands. I have a vinyl cutter and have cut/pressed thousands of shirts with that also. Have tunnel dryers, heat presses, shop with good ventilation. Have kept my Epson 1400 alive for 14 years to make screen positives. I had been saving for a DTG printer, but with me not using it every day and many other serious issues, I don't believe the they are worth the excessive cost they ask for them just yet. I think I should add DTF to my shop, small (less than 30) orders for screen printing are more time consuming to set up that I think DTF would be. So, where to from here.. My initial thought was to purchase (already purchased, still in the box though) a XP 15000 and convert it to DTF. I picked the 15000 because it uses carts on the printhead & you could switch the carts to cleaning carts and cap it when not in use. I still would be screen printing so the DTF would not be used every day (at first at least). Now, I've read too much about the 15000 and if the carts leak,( which I have read that they have) they leak onto the motherboard and fry it, so maybe that would not be the best choice... So,... I can get (I think) an new (leftover) p400 for $1500.. I have heard that is a good printer to convert? I have seen P800s for $1000ish used.. no carts on top of print head but a pressurized system with a straight shot to the print head and easy to clean? I've found an Epson Stylus Pro 4800 nearby for less than $500, would that be a good solid printer when converted??? I don't mind doing the conversion (I'll take anything apart and fix it if I have to at least once) but I do still run my screen printing & embroidery every day so too much time spent on another project could be an issue. Which leads me to my last thought... In the thread about converting an XP 15000, Johnson4 posted a pic of a printer (red) from China (where they all come from of course) for $1900.... he said.... "Personally, I’m going to pick one of these up, they are about $1,900 delivered without the heads. the time it will save me will be priceless in terms of doing the work myself, and it resolves all the problems I have with even a P series printer. It’s basically a p400 with a white ink management system, ciss tanks, air vacuum and all that crap with the roll holder and such." "Alibaba, seems like a good machine. Epson based, so you can use any RIP and not limited to whatever they have available for them in China. it’s $1600 without shipping/head. They have two versions, one like the l1800 and one like the p400. "personally I’m going to swap the mainboard/head from a p400, boom. All my problems solved with a good, fast and reliable printer. After watching many videos, I don’t see any printer faster than the P series, which is the dx5/dx7 head. While i could likely replicate everything the machine does, I just don’t have that time anymore, but it’s Epson based which is a huge plus for me, maybe not for others. " I have found the one with the L1800 head, but cannot find the one with the p400 head though. I think this might be a viable option for me for all of the same reasons... If I could find the one with the P400 head??? The other (last?) option/thought is another printer I have found on AliExpress "A3 DTF Printer XP600 Printhead" with dual print heads.... Looks like the same one as the Knight 12, but for $4400 shipped not 6k shipped like the Knight 12. If this would be a good dependable printer I would consider it also. I don't mind spending money on something that is reliable and makes me money... I bought my first embroidery machine 12 years ago ( the best I could find, not the cheapest) and have only replaced ONE part in all of that time,,, because of the quality of the machine and my maintenance schedule. Again, I won't be using it every day (to start), I will do the conversion myself, it that is the best way to go when taking time/money into consideration. I don't mind buying something already purpose built if it is solid and reliable..... So, what are your opinions/ideas??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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