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On 6/15/2021 at 10:34 AM, Mdrake2016 said:

Everybody, please be careful with the cartridges on the XP-15000. The sponge cartridges suck if you make a mistake. I made 2 mistakes:

1. I had both holes on the cartridges plugged when I first installed the DTF inks, and it caused some leaking and a clogged nozzle that never cleared.

2. Yesterday I wanted to manually move the printhead so I can clean the wiper blade, and my finger accidentally hit one of the cartridges so it popped up and caused the ink to spill through. This seemed to fry something. I get an Error 031006 so I took apart the printer, removed the printhead and cleaned it the best I could but I still get the error when I put it back together.

I made both of these exact mistakes. If you accidentally knock the cartridges off while unplugged you can kiss your printer goodbye and say hello x031006. I Bought a TON of empty cartridges and a whole set of every type of ink available for the XP-15000 (dye, pigment, sublimation). But these things are honestly even trashier than I expected. It seems like epson has gone above and beyond to make it as difficult as possible to clean or service these printers. I'm going to do my best to just leave the dye ink carts in the printer and just refill them without ever removing them.

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53 minutes ago, Contracandles said:

I'm going to do my best to just leave the dye ink carts in the printer and just refill them without ever removing them.

I was hoping to do the same with the DTF inks but unfortunately have to shake them up every morning. Unless there's another way I'm unaware of. Shake the whole printer maybe? Lol

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14 minutes ago, Mdrake2016 said:

I was hoping to do the same with the DTF inks but unfortunately have to shake them up every morning. Unless there's another way I'm unaware of. Shake the whole printer maybe? Lol

That's literally why I don't want to use anything other than dye inks since you don't have to shake them. For me it's just not the worth the risk constantly cycling carts. Hopefully I can fix up an R1800 for doing pigments.

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1 hour ago, Mdrake2016 said:

I was hoping to do the same with the DTF inks but unfortunately have to shake them up every morning. Unless there's another way I'm unaware of. Shake the whole printer maybe? Lol

Not going to lie, I have done this, lol. 

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1 hour ago, Contracandles said:

That's literally why I don't want to use anything other than dye inks since you don't have to shake them. For me it's just not the worth the risk constantly cycling carts. Hopefully I can fix up an R1800 for doing pigments.

I have never once shaken pigment inks, or noticed settling from them in the years I have used them, unless they are going on years old. I think epson has the P800 pigment carts on a 3 year shelf life. once installed they have a one year lifespan without being removed and shaken. I have noticed them coagulate in older unused printers I have purchased though.  However, I can't say that it wouldn't clog the printer since pigments carry larger particles and it was designed for dye based inks. I encountered that often with low quality aftermarket ink.

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23 hours ago, johnson4 said:

I have never once shaken pigment inks, or noticed settling from them in the years I have used them, unless they are going on years old. I think epson has the P800 pigment carts on a 3 year shelf life. once installed they have a one year lifespan without being removed and shaken. I have noticed them coagulate in older unused printers I have purchased though.  However, I can't say that it wouldn't clog the printer since pigments carry larger particles and it was designed for dye based inks. I encountered that often with low quality aftermarket ink.

 

I mean I literally cannot get a single good nozzle check using DTF ink from DTF Super Store. Used an entire ink cartridges worth trying to purge and do nozzle cleans. I got the "there's something wrong with your print head, contact epson message" eventually JUST from doing head cleans, so I noped the fuck off and installed the dye refill ink (no more warning thankfully). Getting perfect checks and prints now after only one head clean. By some miracle Epson decided not to charge me for the hacked printer I returned so I'm trying to play it a little more conservatively. I still have the second broken one going back for replacement, so maybe once I have two of them again I'll be a little more brave.

And then LITERALLY as I'm typing this: Turn on your printer again. See your documentation for more detail. 031006

Welp, looks like I'm throwing these fuckers straight into the trash.

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1 hour ago, Contracandles said:

Has anyone used a manual reset device with this? I'm convinced that somehow I'm bricking the printers with the chipless firmware. I have one more printer and don't want to destroy it. I'd like to buy some cartridges and try and just keep resetting them manually.

They don’t have them, I don’t think. It’s one time chips or Chipless for this one. 
 

honestly, if it’s that much struggle I would try cleaning them up and selling them/exchanging them with Epson then selling them. Pick up a P series printer, and be done. Your best bet is going to be the P800, they were available for $800 yesterday, sell the ink for $400 and have a solid $400 in it, Chipless, $30 for some refillable carts-boom- DTF on the cheap with a printer that won’t give you those issues. 

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2 hours ago, Contracandles said:

 

I mean I literally cannot get a single good nozzle check using DTF ink from DTF Super Store. Used an entire ink cartridges worth trying to purge and do nozzle cleans. I got the "there's something wrong with your print head, contact epson message" eventually JUST from doing head cleans, so I noped the fuck off and installed the dye refill ink (no more warning thankfully). Getting perfect checks and prints now after only one head clean. By some miracle Epson decided not to charge me for the hacked printer I returned so I'm trying to play it a little more conservatively. I still have the second broken one going back for replacement, so maybe once I have two of them again I'll be a little more brave.

And then LITERALLY as I'm typing this: Turn on your printer again. See your documentation for more detail. 031006

Welp, looks like I'm throwing these fuckers straight into the trash.

Do you know what that code means?

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1 hour ago, johnson4 said:

They don’t have them, I don’t think. It’s one time chips or Chipless for this one. 
 

honestly, if it’s that much struggle I would try cleaning them up and selling them/exchanging them with Epson then selling them. Pick up a P series printer, and be done. Your best bet is going to be the P800, they were available for $800 yesterday, sell the ink for $400 and have a solid $400 in it, Chipless, $30 for some refillable carts-boom- DTF on the cheap with a printer that won’t give you those issues. 

Yes, that's exactly my intention at this point. I see them going for nearly $500 on ebay (I got mine for MSRP), and the price for USA shipped empty cartridges seems crazy high. At this point I'd probably turn a profit selling it all assuming epson will change them out. I already snagged a R1800 for dirt cheap. I'm pretty happy with the l805 platform in my UV printer and it will be nice to have compatible spare print heads worst comes to worse. I'm not even sure DTF is the best technology for my application so it's really hard to invest more than in another machine. I'm trying to use one of those 3D vacuum ovens to print on glass jars that I coat in polyester. UV works OK, but the colors aren't exactly what I'd like, and the smell is god awful and I need to place each jar manually after every print. I love UV for random one offs and customization projects, but I need something for small run production that I can basically just have printing in the background while I do other stuff. If I can get DTF working it'd be less than a quarter of the labor and I'm hoping much less awful smell and better color.

1 hour ago, johnson4 said:

Do you know what that code means?

No clue. Epson couldn't (or wouldn't) even tell me, they just immediately offered to ship a new one. Further cementing in my mind that these are the disposable cameras of inkjet printers.

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27 minutes ago, Contracandles said:

Yes, that's exactly my intention at this point. I see them going for nearly $500 on ebay (I got mine for MSRP), and the price for USA shipped empty cartridges seems crazy high. At this point I'd probably turn a profit selling it all assuming epson will change them out. I already snagged a R1800 for dirt cheap. I'm pretty happy with the l805 platform in my UV printer and it will be nice to have compatible spare print heads worst comes to worse. I'm not even sure DTF is the best technology for my application so it's really hard to invest more than in another machine. I'm trying to use one of those 3D vacuum ovens to print on glass jars that I coat in polyester. UV works OK, but the colors aren't exactly what I'd like, and the smell is god awful and I need to place each jar manually after every print. I love UV for random one offs and customization projects, but I need something for small run production that I can basically just have printing in the background while I do other stuff. If I can get DTF working it'd be less than a quarter of the labor and I'm hoping much less awful smell and better color.

No clue. Epson couldn't (or wouldn't) even tell me, they just immediately offered to ship a new one. Further cementing in my mind that these are the disposable cameras of inkjet printers.

I have the manual for it, I can check. 
 

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5 hours ago, Contracandles said:

 

I mean I literally cannot get a single good nozzle check using DTF ink from DTF Super Store. Used an entire ink cartridges worth trying to purge and do nozzle cleans. I got the "there's something wrong with your print head, contact epson message" eventually JUST from doing head cleans, so I noped the fuck off and installed the dye refill ink (no more warning thankfully). Getting perfect checks and prints now after only one head clean. By some miracle Epson decided not to charge me for the hacked printer I returned so I'm trying to play it a little more conservatively. I still have the second broken one going back for replacement, so maybe once I have two of them again I'll be a little more brave.

And then LITERALLY as I'm typing this: Turn on your printer again. See your documentation for more detail. 031006

Welp, looks like I'm throwing these fuckers straight into the trash.

 

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looks like printhead power failure, aka, probably a shorted out printhead from liquid. 

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Thanks for the information. I am starting to suspect there might be an inherent design flaw in these refillable carts like you said. I might have fucked up the first two, but I was very careful with this one. It's a shame the print heads cost 2/3 of the printer. Maybe I'll try replacing the fuse but I suspect it's surface mount and not worth the bother. These look like a huge pain in the ass to open up and I hardly see any documentation about it. Can't even find the most basic information about the motherboard online.

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2 hours ago, Contracandles said:

Thanks for the information. I am starting to suspect there might be an inherent design flaw in these refillable carts like you said. I might have fucked up the first two, but I was very careful with this one. It's a shame the print heads cost 2/3 of the printer. Maybe I'll try replacing the fuse but I suspect it's surface mount and not worth the bother. These look like a huge pain in the ass to open up and I hardly see any documentation about it. Can't even find the most basic information about the motherboard online.

It’s not bad, I had mine apart in about 15 minutes. I’ll pm you the manual in a bit

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On 6/15/2021 at 12:36 PM, chaudhryis said:

Hi.. just going through some of the comments and seeing the challenges and hassles people are facing on the XP15000 (which I was working to convert to DTF).. I am now double minded … 

 

I am at a stage where I haven’t put DTF ink in the printer yet… and yet to buy the RIP software and chipless software

 

I have two printers one is XP15000 brand new no existing ink in channels… and another is a P600 with original pigment ink cartridges which I may need to flush

 

I have the supplies to convert either of the two printers to a DTF printer.. my usage will be around 30-50 A3 prints in a week.. print runs every other day… 

 

Question is.. should I go after the XP15000 conversion or P600… 

 

the only reason I was wanted to use the XP15000 was because the cartridges sit on top of the print head and I thought it would be best to swap the carts with cleaning solution after every print run to keep them unclogged, in case I come after two three days for prints. 
 

Kindly suggest, as I am confused.

New update .. so I gathered the guts to move with the XP15000… took it out of the box .. put the plug in to move the print head slightly so I could free the print head and move out of way of the pizza roller screws … the very first power on gives a smoke cloud and phuff the printer is gone … this is some seriously in reliable DTF printer … the printer is going back to newegg.. but wow what a clear sign to stay clear from the XP15000 lineup… 

 

so that just happened… guess my only choice is P600 which I have on hand ……

 

I do have a SC4900 in sight from a seller but that printer has been sitting for over a year without printing … and the ink has all dried out … not sure if I should risk my money on it .. I did read and saw some videos on how the SC4900 is also great DTF DIY printer… any experience with an old printer revival? or should I stay clear.. the seller says he didn’t even buy the 2nd set of inks for the printer .. so I am guessing it’s done under 1500-2000 prints.. 

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26 minutes ago, chaudhryis said:

New update .. so I gathered the guts to move with the XP15000… took it out of the box .. put the plug in to move the print head slightly so I could free the print head and move out of way of the pizza roller screws … the very first power on gives a smoke cloud and phuff the printer is gone … this is some seriously in reliable DTF printer … the printer is going back to newegg.. but wow what a clear sign to stay clear from the XP15000 lineup… 

 

so that just happened… guess my only choice is P600 which I have on hand ……

 

I do have a SC4900 in sight from a seller but that printer has been sitting for over a year without printing … and the ink has all dried out … not sure if I should risk my money on it .. I did read and saw some videos on how the SC4900 is also great DTF DIY printer… any experience with an old printer revival? or should I stay clear.. the seller says he didn’t even buy the 2nd set of inks for the printer .. so I am guessing it’s done under 1500-2000 prints.. 

I’m sure you could get it going, if not a good flush and a new head is worst case scenario if it’s in good shape otherwise. 

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