Andy - Admin Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I figured I'd make a post since this is one of the most popular questions right now. The list of printers that are good for DTF is basically the same as for DIY DTG: https://www.opendtg.com/topic/3-which-printers-to-use-for-diy-dtg/ You need an Epson printer with 6-8 colors / ink channels so you can print CMYK + White inks, available refillable cartridges, and compatible RIP software. The most popular models are going to be the best to use unless you are fine with figuring things out on your own. L1800 (1430 w/ bulk ink) is used a lot because it's cheap and available outside of the USA. It prints 13x19 but is very slow. 15 minutes plus for a full print. 6 channel printhead P400 is at least 3 times faster than the L1800 / 1430 because it is a 8 channel DX5 printhead. Ink cartridges or CISS plug in right on top of the printhead so there is easy access to the head and not much wasted ink to flush the printhead out when the printer needs to sit for days without use. 13x19 max print size P600 is fast like the p400 with a 8 channel DX7 printhead. It is better if you're printing daily with volume because of the built in pressurized ink system and available 80ml cartridges. Because of the ink system not using often will cause white ink separation in the lines and you'll have to waste ink to get it out. 13x19 max print size P800 has a wider 17" print width. It too have a ink system built in like the P600. Many of these models are discontinued but places like OpenDTG have a stock of them. NEW Epson P700 and P900. These aren't good for DTF / DTG yet because there is not refillable ink cartridges or RIP software for them yet. There are older and smaller model Epson printers that will work. Some of them are listed here on the DIY DTG list: https://www.opendtg.com/topic/3-which-printers-to-use-for-diy-dtg/ Feel free to comment below with more models or information. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyanvasilev88@gmail.com Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) For people on a budget and looking for used machine on their local marketplaces I would add the following models that are supported in widely available acrorip for 1 pass Printing. Up to13x19 Faster R3000 R2400 R2000 R2880 R1900 (have to double check and update) Up to 13x19 slower two channels for white so slower compared to above mentioned. r1390 r1400 Up to 17inch widht R3880 P800 (one time chips for the refill cartridges) If you get one of these make sure you get yoourself at least 2 sets of cartridges. One to clean the system from original ink. Another for new inks. Up to 24 inches ( have to double check when i go back home) Edited October 23, 2020 by boyanvasilev88@gmail.com 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love2print Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 10/23/2020 at 4:57 PM, boyanvasilev88@gmail.com said: For people on a budget and looking for used machine on their local marketplaces I would add the following models that are supported in widely available acrorip for 1 pass Printing. Up to13x19 Faster R3000 R2400 R2000 R2880 R1900 (have to double check and update) Up to 13x19 slower two channels for white so slower compared to above mentioned. r1390 r1400 Up to 17inch widht R3880 P800 (one time chips for the refill cartridges) If you get one of these make sure you get yoourself at least 2 sets of cartridges. One to clean the system from original ink. Another for new inks. Up to 24 inches ( have to double check when i go back home) Hi, Are you able to provide any more information on converting an Epson 2880? thanks a lot! Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Love2print said: Hi, Are you able to provide any more information on converting an Epson 2880? thanks a lot! Will For DTF it's going to be the same principle across all of the printers. 1.Remove the " Pizza Wheels" from the printer, however you need to do that. 2. build an output tray to hold/support the film, the "pizza wheels" you removed used to do that. 3. obtain ARC cartridges ( auto reset) or chipless firmware and empty carts. 4. Obtain RIP software 5. Install Ink Waste Tank or if it has a stock replaceable waste pad, you can use that too. 6. Buy DTF supplies from Andy That's it other than a heat press and heat gun or some other curing method. I don't think anyone will make a break down or " how to" for each and every printer, But it's not complicated you just have to get in there an do it. Edited November 13, 2020 by johnson4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love2print Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Super clear, thanks a lot for coming back to me. I also realised in the “Which printers can convert to DTF list” that Epson Stylus 2100 was not there. l wonder why that was? (Not to be confused with Epson F2100 DTG) Cheers again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Joey Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Can a wide format printer be used for this like a stylus 9600? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyanvasilev88@gmail.com Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) On 11/13/2020 at 6:39 PM, Love2print said: Super clear, thanks a lot for coming back to me. I also realised in the “Which printers can convert to DTF list” that Epson Stylus 2100 was not there. l wonder why that was? (Not to be confused with Epson F2100 DTG) Cheers again Because its not supported by the Rip software for 1 pass. Otherwise always start with 2 set of cartridges. In you cass 1 set of cartridges and 1 bulk in system. In case you need to do cleaning. I might have them handy but have to double check. Pm me so i dont forget Edited November 15, 2020 by boyanvasilev88@gmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikegwegbe Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Can Epson pro 3800 be used for dtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ikegwegbe said: Can Epson pro 3800 be used for dtf If it has a rip available for it, and chipless/reset chips, then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Joey Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Sorry guys I almost bought a r3000 but really interested in an Epson 9600 I've seen for same price. Can someone please let me know which is best. I would like to do multiple prints at once if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, Pastor Joey said: Sorry guys I almost bought a r3000 but really interested in an Epson 9600 I've seen for same price. Can someone please let me know which is best. I would like to do multiple prints at once if possible. Can you find a rip program and refillable carts? If so go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anum11 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 There should be configration on acrorip for 9600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Joey Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 7 hours ago, johnson4 said: Can you find a rip program and refillable carts? If so go for it. Thank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaRugz Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 2:24 PM, Ikegwegbe said: Can Epson pro 3800 be used for dtf The 3800 probably won’t do one pass.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hub1961 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 will an epson xp 15000 work for this process new to this dtf thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diondallen Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Can a Epson 7890 be used for DTF. I think I found a rip program - PowerRip X ( still researching it) Also the printer has refillable chipped carts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev K Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Can a Epson R1800 be used for DTF, It is on the Acrorip list. Looks like 8 colors, so CMYK+WWWW ? Anyone using this with a CISS ? How would the speed be ? Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anum11 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 On 11/28/2020 at 10:06 PM, diondallen said: Can a Epson 7890 be used for DTF. I think I found a rip program - PowerRip X ( still researching it) Also the printer has refillable chipped carts. I think acrorip also have rip option for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anum11 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 10 hours ago, Kev K said: Can a Epson R1800 be used for DTF, It is on the Acrorip list. Looks like 8 colors, so CMYK+WWWW ? Anyone using this with a CISS ? How would the speed be ? Thank You I think it have dx5 printhead, with ciss it would be usable. You will need catridge reset often thou, which stops you for a few minutes. But printhead speed is one of the best on par with p600. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Kev K said: Can a Epson R1800 be used for DTF, It is on the Acrorip list. Looks like 8 colors, so CMYK+WWWW ? Anyone using this with a CISS ? How would the speed be ? Thank You I’ve used the p400 with 10ml carts. I got 30 prints 8x10 before I had to stop and refill them with DTF. I would recommend just having two sets of refillable carts and swap them when needed. Easier to refill with a syringe than keep all the ink mixed up in the ciss and tubing, not to mention the proper height. It’s rather annoying, messy, and overall a huge PITA in comparison to just having a spare set of cartridges ready to go with ink, In my opinion. If your looking to print a lot, and fast, probably not the best printer to go with. Edited December 9, 2020 by johnson4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev K Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Proper height ? is this something I need to set to do DTF? I know about front pizza roller removal and table tray, Also maybe a waist bottle. What else am i missing? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev K Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I Have chance to buy any of these printers around the same price, which would be the best choice for DTF printing and why? My rip software supports all. 1400, 1430, r1800, r1900, r2880 Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Kev K said: Proper height ? is this something I need to set to do DTF? I know about front pizza roller removal and table tray, Also maybe a waist bottle. What else am i missing? Thank you Nothing really, cartridges, ink, film, maybe Chipless if available for the printer, and all the stuff you need to process them like powder, a flash dryer/belt dryer/etc. the conversion to dtf is pretty basic, depending on how far you want to go to make it easier on yourself in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublove3880 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 10/23/2020 at 11:57 AM, boyanvasilev88@gmail.com said: For people on a budget and looking for used machine on their local marketplaces I would add the following models that are supported in widely available acrorip for 1 pass Printing. Up to13x19 Faster R3000 R2400 R2000 R2880 R1900 (have to double check and update) Up to 13x19 slower two channels for white so slower compared to above mentioned. r1390 r1400 Up to 17inch widht R3880 P800 (one time chips for the refill cartridges) If you get one of these make sure you get yoourself at least 2 sets of cartridges. One to clean the system from original ink. Another for new inks. Up to 24 inches ( have to double check when i go back home) Hello, It looks like I my Epson Stylus 3880 can be used for DTF if I'm understanding. It looks like it maybe the older model of the p800???? I'm getting a little okay a lot overwhelmed. If you or anyone can help I would appreciate it. If so what is the first step and I mean I just need my hand held here. Do I have to re-build my printer, order a kit? I'm just not understanding so if anyone can help me make sense of DTF I would really appreciate it. When I purchased the printer someone suggested DTF but I had no idea this beautiful world existed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sublove3880 said: Hello, It looks like I my Epson Stylus 3880 can be used for DTF if I'm understanding. It looks like it maybe the older model of the p800???? I'm getting a little okay a lot overwhelmed. If you or anyone can help I would appreciate it. If so what is the first step and I mean I just need my hand held here. Do I have to re-build my printer, order a kit? I'm just not understanding so if anyone can help me make sense of DTF I would really appreciate it. When I purchased the printer someone suggested DTF but I had no idea this beautiful world existed here. From my understanding, no Chipless firmware or refillable carts exist for the 3880, as another user did this and had to use the chips from OEM carts, unless I’m mistaken. If that is true, it would become very expensive to buy oem ink just for the chips- and what happens when those are gone... DTF conversion requires minimal work, reading the forum on these topics will help you understand. Edited December 11, 2020 by johnson4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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