Andy - Admin Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Hobby Print made a video on converting the Epson L1800 to DTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgie Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Do you have a video that's in English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy - Admin Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 9:33 PM, Hodgie said: Do you have a video that's in English? No but this video shows what to do. It's pretty simple removal of the front rollers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
servo386 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 the L1800 looks almost identical to the 1430. Should I assume the process would be the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy - Admin Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, servo386 said: the L1800 looks almost identical to the 1430. Should I assume the process would be the same? It is. Except ink system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaiyin Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 can create arduino code for modification of printer L1800 to DTF, for roll film, move back and forth and stop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g9dvIxn1yw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Would this be the same process for the P400? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy - Admin Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Carrie said: Would this be the same process for the P400? They're all pretty similar. You're just wanting to remove the front rollers so they don't drag through the ink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printboy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Why are the printers that people talk about for DTF mostly seem discontinued? P600, P400. Why aren’t we talking about the P700 p800 or p900 more than the p600/p400? Trying to do my research before I buy a printer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy - Admin Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Printboy said: Why are the printers that people talk about for DTF mostly seem discontinued? P600, P400. Why aren’t we talking about the P700 p800 or p900 more than the p600/p400? Trying to do my research before I buy a printer Because the new models don't have RIP software or refillable cartridges yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printboy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Andy - Admin said: Because the new models don't have RIP software or refillable cartridges yet * Didnt a guy post pictures of his prints on a p800? Does this mean its possible without a rip? Or does the p800 have a rip already? Is there a list of rips that you sell? * Is refillable cartridges just about buying third party refillable cartridges, like we did with our other Epsons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmusa Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 i have a question if you could help... what is the order of the ink for DTF on the p600 how many cartridges of white ink and with what color i fill cartridge number 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Printboy said: * Didnt a guy post pictures of his prints on a p800? Does this mean its possible without a rip? Or does the p800 have a rip already? Is there a list of rips that you sell? * Is refillable cartridges just about buying third party refillable cartridges, like we did with our other Epsons? The p800 is an older model, right there with the P600 and the newer but still discontinued( I think) P400. The main issue is someone making the printer usable for anything other than OEM ink. You need a way to use aftermarket inks. Epson locks their printers to their ink cartridges, especially these newer models. After a reliable chipless solution comes out, OR ARC ( Auto reset chips) come out for that specific printer model, then it's practically useless to use. You would have to buy a new OEM epson ink cartridge to harvest only the ink chip from to use aftermarket inks. Same kinda goes for the rip. Company's probably won't dedicate the time modifying software to work with the new printer without chipless ink, since no one ( or next to no one) would use it. It's not really necessary with OEM ink. Even when chipless comes out, the software provider would still need to see a return on investment on offering their software to work with another printer, so I'd imagine it would have to be a " group" type of thing to get a new RIP for a new printer. Basically, When the printer is ready for market, and it's being used and the programs/chipless are sought after, Then they are produced. Edited October 21, 2020 by johnson4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Jonmusa said: i have a question if you could help... what is the order of the ink for DTF on the p600 how many cartridges of white ink and with what color i fill cartridge number 9 I have mine exactly like the DTG printers. If you look at Andy's listing photo, He has his CMYK+WWWW The last one is just filled with a light cleaning solution or distilled water. It's only used when the printer does an ink charge. I use Distilled water. Don't want that damper switch going bad or drying out- or serious head clogs because of air getting in there with an ink charge when the printer purges matte black. I however Am not sure what Andy recommends being placed in there with DTF inks. I'd imagine cleaning solution. Edited October 21, 2020 by johnson4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Printboy said: * Didnt a guy post pictures of his prints on a p800? Does this mean its possible without a rip? Or does the p800 have a rip already? Is there a list of rips that you sell? * Is refillable cartridges just about buying third party refillable cartridges, like we did with our other Epsons? I Forgot the list: For EKprint they support: Supports C88/WF7010/1100/T60/P50/R230/R800/L805/L1300/L1800/R1290/R1390/R1400/XP15000/R1800/R1900/P400/P600/P800 based DTG/DTF printers · Supports R2000/R2100/R2200/R2400/R2880/R3000/R3800/R3880/R4800/R4880/R4900/R4910/R7600/R7800/R7880/R9600/R9800/R9880 based DTG/DTF printers For Kothari that Andy sells: P600- P800-P400-L1800. I know more exist, That would be a question from someone else for a full list. For AcroRip it just says " most are supported". Now that list is just for the RIP software, It doesn't mean that you can find the printer anymore, or that it will work for DTF or DTG specifically. The printer mainly supported by OPENDTG would be the P600, since it is the most cost efficient, and best choice for DTG. I'd imagine same goes for DTF. Having thousands of people using the P600 for DTG, Almost every issue/error has been well documented and it will be easy on you. The printer is a workhorse. While I haven't had any problems with the P800 DTG I have, It is slower but features the same printhead. The main difference is the print size, and OEM cartridge size. You will find almost every printer offers different pros and cons for aftermarket use. If you decide to go buy an Epson 7710 or something for example and try to DTF with it and run into problems, You probably won't get any support, since no one has experience with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
servo386 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Here's a question: is using refillable cartridges for a 1430 enough for DTF, knowing that I'd have to refill them very often, or is a ciss necessary? I have one of those common ones you see everywhere, that the front flips down to reveal the bottles. The previous owner of one of the 1430's I got had it connected for sublimation ink. I removed it and put it some cheap aftermarket ink to clean out and test print the unit, and I'm not particularly enthused about putting it back in, since my attempts to clean out the sublimation ink of it has been more difficult than I imagined. If I don't have to, I'd rather just use refillable carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabby Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, servo386 said: Here's a question: is using refillable cartridges for a 1430 enough for DTF, knowing that I'd have to refill them very often, or is a ciss necessary? I have one of those common ones you see everywhere, that the front flips down to reveal the bottles. The previous owner of one of the 1430's I got had it connected for sublimation ink. I removed it and put it some cheap aftermarket ink to clean out and test print the unit, and I'm not particularly enthused about putting it back in, since my attempts to clean out the sublimation ink of it has been more difficult than I imagined. If I don't have to, I'd rather just use refillable carts. I would use a CISS for the 1430. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 7 hours ago, servo386 said: Here's a question: is using refillable cartridges for a 1430 enough for DTF, knowing that I'd have to refill them very often, or is a ciss necessary? I have one of those common ones you see everywhere, that the front flips down to reveal the bottles. The previous owner of one of the 1430's I got had it connected for sublimation ink. I removed it and put it some cheap aftermarket ink to clean out and test print the unit, and I'm not particularly enthused about putting it back in, since my attempts to clean out the sublimation ink of it has been more difficult than I imagined. If I don't have to, I'd rather just use refillable carts. The P400 has 14ML ink cartridges, and the 1430 has 11ML ink carts from what I can find, so not too far off from each other. I used the refillable, and I remember immediately needing to use a CISS. If the CISS had ink in it before, it would probably be best to buy a new one. I guess you could flush it with distilled water, then flush out the distilled water with air and let it air dry. I Strongly disliked the Ciss, for already mentioned reasons, Plus the fact that it was almost impossible to "shake" the white ink. I ended up making a " shelf" for it to sit on with a " strap" that held it on the shelf so I could take it off daily and shake it and it could go back in the exact same position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickerofjunk Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 9:56 PM, Andy - Admin said: It is. Except ink system Andy when you say ink system does that mean one is pressurized and the other is not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy - Admin Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 30 minutes ago, Pickerofjunk said: Andy when you say ink system does that mean one is pressurized and the other is not? No. The l1800 has a built in bulk ink system. The 1430 is just cartridges. Neither are pressurized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYLINEN Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Is there any rip software that supports newer printers like P6000 or similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy - Admin Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, LADYLINEN said: Is there any rip software that supports newer printers like P6000 or similar? I can check with Kothari. Make sure the ink cartridges will be available and affordable. Some of those models have refillable cartridges but the chips are 1 time use and expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYLINEN Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Andy - Admin said: I can check with Kothari. Make sure the ink cartridges will be available and affordable. Some of those models have refillable cartridges but the chips are 1 time use and expensive. Ok I would appreciate it. I will look. I'm really wanting one that can do similar output to the ones in china. 24" I have an Epson 1430 we converted. It's just not nearly fast enough for our purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADYLINEN Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Oh your right, no chip resetter. So I'm better off getting an older one, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnson4 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, LADYLINEN said: Oh your right, no chip resetter. So I'm better off getting an older one, correct? A machine that has a way to reset/remove the ink chips, and a RIP program, not necessarily just an older one. Ekprint wouldn't support it, so If Kothari supports any 24" printer's I'm sure he'll let you know what models. Good luck, sounds like a cool endeavor! Edited October 28, 2020 by johnson4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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